Next general meeting: WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 21
Meetings are at Irish Embassy,
900 Main Street Durango
Dinner, for those interested, from 5:30PM.
Discussion starts at 6:30
The discussion topic for this month: MOVIE NIGHT!
We hope. That’s the plan, anyway. We are hoping to stream a YouTube video entitled The Atheist Delusion (which, you may recognize, is a spoof of the title of Richard Dawkins’ The God Delusion). This video promises to ‘demolish atheism with a single question’. If all goes as planned, we will screen the movie starting at 6:30 and then (those of us who are not entirely ‘demolished’) will have a discussion in which we will critique what we’ve just witnessed. If you would like to get a head start, you can view the movie here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChWiZ3iXWwM It has a running time of 1:11:00.
The video is brought to us by ‘Living Waters Publications’ and writer/producer Ray Comfort. Mr. Comfort has a number of books and videos to his credit including The Way of the Master series, 180: Changing the Heart of a Nation, Evolution vs. God: Shaking the Foundations of Faith and many others too stupid too numerous to mention.
As an example, in one famous episode of The Way of the Master, Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron blundered their way into the Infamy Hall of Fame. (Comfort has since disavowed this scene by saying that atheists have taken his words out of context). The link below is a clip that shows the entire incident, in context. Holding up a banana, Mr. Comfort proclaims that it represents ‘…an atheist’s nightmare’ because it has ridges in its skin which match the ridges in the human hand and is shaped perfectly for human consumption. His point being that the banana could only have been designed for human use by The Great Watchmaker, God Almighty Himself. Here’s the clip: https://youtu.be/BXLqDGL1FSg
His own words, as you can see from the above clip, belie his later desperate denials. Mr. Comfort was hoist on his own petard. To add insult to injury, Cameron then chimes in to say that the human eye was obviously ‘designed’ by God because of its complexity. To think otherwise, Cameron chirps, goes against ‘common sense’. The clip then features a quote from Charles Darwin which, unlike Comfort’s banana slip up, was truly and actually taken out of context by Mr. Comfort and Mr. Cameron. Here is Darwin’s quote as it appears in Comfort’s film: “To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.”
OH NO! Is Charles Darwin saying that natural selection is absurd?!? Are atheists living a lie?!? Not so fast. Here is the actual quote in context which, if read in its entirety, completely refutes Cameron’s point that we should trust our ‘common sense’ over Science:
“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science.Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms, in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility.
Of The Atheist Delusion, Mr. Comfort says this, “Having to prove the existence of God to an atheist is like having to prove the existence of the sun, at noon on a clear day. Yet millions are embracing the foolishness of atheism. “The Atheist Delusion” pulls back the curtain and reveals what is going on in the mind of those who deny the obvious. It introduces you to a number of atheists who you will follow as they go where the evidence leads, find a roadblock, and enter into a place of honesty that is rarely seen on film.
We hope you can attend…it should be fun!